A PLACE TO BE
Friday, May 3, 2013
April 2013 Regular Meeting
President Chapa said the “Workshop” needs to go into Executive Session and Director Gunderson said no, that is not correct. Director Gunderson said if you yourself President Chapa moved it from the column that I placed it in and put it in the Executive Session, then you need to explain your power to do that, because I believe you don’t have that kind of power and in fact we held this discussion before Mr. Chapa. I am quite upset. You are the president and not the supreme ruler of this board and when a Board member asks for something to be on the Agenda it needs to be on the Agenda. You could have called me and discussed why you feel this item should have belonged in Executive Session. I feel you could not have changed my mind, but you chose not to do that so I do not accept this Agenda.
Director Gunderson made a motion to have both items be put on the Agenda. President Chapa tried to argue but was advised that a motion was on the table and Director McBride seconded it.
President Chapa moved for discussion of the motion.
Director McBride started by saying that after Director Gunderson left the Workshop, the filling of Patti Anne’s (Director) position was discussed. We (the Board) even discussed where to put it on the agenda, so saying you didn’t know if it should be on there is not true. Everybody knew that Director Gunderson asked for that to be put on the Agenda. Everybody heard the term she used and we all heard this. There was some discussion and some modification of the way she asked (the filling of the Director’s position), but nobody said anything about taking it off (the Agenda).
Director Gunderson began her discussion saying this (placement of agenda items) is important to me, but even more important than taking this away from me, you are taking it away from all those who voted for me that I represent. You would be saying that they don’t count and I don’t believe I am wrong with saying that.
Directors Guerra said I looked at the agenda the other day and saw what was moved and to me it was just being moved into other areas, so I didn’t see anything really wrong with it. I still think when you walked out and said you wanted that placed on the Agenda, I don’t recall it was going to be placed on the Agenda. I thought it was going to be placed in Executive Session as we did in the other instance, so I don’t see a problem with that.
Director Vasquez requested since she conceded the second item that Director Gunderson revise her motion to only include the first agenda item (Open Workshop). She agreed and it was seconded. Director Pelletier jumped in with a comment that he had five candidates to fill the vacant Director’s spot and these need to be discussed in Executive Session. Once again Director Gunderson said this item shouldn’t be in Executive Session but conceded to it.
Director Vasquez restated Director Gunther’s revised motion and said discussions have been made, if the President so deserves that the discussion shall end, we will now vote.
Director Pelletier weighed in saying he felt the Workshop should be open to the owners and Director Guerra agreed only with the stipulation that the general population’s voice not be heard while the Workshop is in session.
Director Steffensen added that the closed Workshops have been most productive but saw no problem with them being open to owners just so long as there are no interruptions and then mentioned when the Workshops first began, the Directors only listed their agenda items without discussion which led to many of them at the Regular Meeting being tabled for the next month’s meeting.
Director Ramirez was in favor of closed Workshops.
Director Vasquez said I have said this before, a Workshop is not a meeting, and it is a Workshop for the Board. Number two, even if we were to have this open, I want you to listen to this very carefully, if we were to have it open and at any time any of the audience says a word, the President has the right to say this meeting is now adjourned and move it upstairs. All he has to hear is an “ah” and that’s it. I want you to understand that because the Workshop is for the Board. If any of you have special training then you can come up to the President and say I want to train the Board on a certain activity. I see some of you nodding your heads but a Workshop is not a meeting. If you find somewhere that a Workshop is a meeting, bring it to my attention.
Director Gunderson’s motion to have an Open Workshop as an agenda item passed. It will be brought up as new business later.
President Chapa passed his President position over to VP Pelletier in order to make a motion that the attorney who is coming in at 10:30 gives her orientation to the Board in an open session and from there the Board will move into Executive Session for additional matters. Motion was approved.
Roll Call had all Board members present.
The President’s remarks gave an update on Dick Lothe’s health, which we found out was good and that the Park invested $105 for 100 sympathy cards.
Manager’s Report had 89 work orders, a new treadmill on its way, and one of the two bicycles has been repaired. The rest was miscellaneous except the dredging update which we learn the application is out to the public, we are still waiting on the letter from Mr. Freeland, we are in the process obtaining a liability rider through our insurance company, and we will have a stick depth redo of the canals.
The Minutes were approved.
The Treasury Report seemed normal. Director Vasquez asked is it not a normal procedure that the insurance agent addresses the Board as to why things are changing. LIV’s insurance has increased $14,679 this year. I think the answer was yes. Your own bank may do an automatic bill pay using your lot number instead of an account number.
Committees
D and E (Gunderson) talked about the summer and winter events too numerous to list.
Pool (Steffensen) said pool bands will be available May 14 and with a motion that passed the renters and guest will now pay $5 for each band. There was also a liability concern with serving alcohol in the pool area and a motion was tabled to hire an outside pool monitor instead of paying for extra security.
Safety (McBride) said the hurricane manual will be updated having new contact names and he is waiting for the new website to be finish in order to have the correct internet procedures.
Not much ado with the Building, Financial, Golf committees or the Bridge Board.
The Village attorney gave her presentation covering four frequent topics of condominium governance issues. They were the misunderstanding of laws governing condominium associations, the importance of meetings and following rules for meetings, rolls/powers of members vs. board vs. members of the board, and legal issues and attorney client privilege.
Recess to the Executive meeting.
I didn’t stay but found out later that a motion was passed to now have open Workshops and no one will fill the vacant director’s spot.
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5 comments:
I find it interesting that they felt the need to fill Jeff Kelmis position but Patty Ann's position was not filled because the board majority did not want to have Mr Rutland on the Board
Come on! Do you blame them? He does NOT play well with others! His way or no way!
Come on yourself. He may come over the top like Vasquez does on issues, but just name me one of "his way" issues you don't agree with. I can't.
HE can't be any worse than Mr Chapa who is a dictator, is very underhanded and thinks he is king.
can't be any worse than Mr Chapa who is a dictator
enough said
That would make two
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