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Thursday, January 20, 2011
January 19, 2011 Coffee W/Directors
Pledge of Allegiance
VP Pelletier announced that today was Dir. White’s birthday.
From The Suggestion Box
Lot 249 asked if the Board has looked into LIV’s homeowner’s insurance ratingwhich is at the worst level available. It appears the reason for this level is over having no agreement for fire services between Port Isabel and LIV. The GM is trying to change that.
Lot 573 had a problem with people using the Park’s laundry to clean their pet’s blankets, which leaves hair.
Lot 668 asked to fix the Wi-Fi.
Lot 345 questioned procedures of special events taking the place of weekly events. VP Pelletier said policy states special events supersede weekly events.
Lot 301 said the street light are out again on Sea Shell and also asked when the Marquee lights are going to be functioning. GM said probably by next week on the marquee lights.
Lot 601 suggested to our Board to contact the people in Port Isabel who will be dredging the fingers this year to see if we could possibly coordinate our efforts with theirs.
Lot? Expressed a problem with a man he called Mr. Olive Oil.
Directors Speaking
Pres. Halbach said the Board has contacted Mr. Olive Oil’s landlord and if someone in the future has a problem with this renter, please contact the Board.
Dir. Gagan said he currently has four dredging survey bids with two more companies to contact.
Dir. White announced they will have Keith Allen and Diane Lynn tonight, Chicken Night 4-6, and that the Board needs to review procedures for those who may not be able to afford future assessments.
GM Rick Horner said starting tonight there will no longer be Chicken Night tickets sold at the door.
Dir. Pelletier said he had three bids for the Rec. Hall roof/wall repair.
From the Audience
Lot? Praised the current management but has a problem with how people stack the garbage to high in the trash bin. He also had a problem with the garbage trucks leaking garbage liquids on the streets. He praised the Board for obeying the wishes of the owners not to dredge.
Lot 288 announced Election Committee information.
Lot D and 558 spoke at length their problems with the Olive Oil man.
Lot 806 wanted to correct the chain of events expressed at the Special Meeting last week when the Board said the meeting was caused by emails they received, when in it was Tom Bergsma who called the meeting due to a CRA three week time frame. She asked what this time frame was then said the chain of events was as follows, Tom Bergsma called the meeting, it was posted on the Marquee, the Village Voice came out, and then the emails. The Board said it was the emails received due to the Village Voice. She went on to say we can’t be bad mouthing people just because we don’t agree or change the chain of events. She pointed out the Board has to be held to a higher standard. She said she got upset when Bud Sherry said “up yours” to a Board member and such a thing should never be tolerated. Upon her exit Bud Sherry stormed up to the stage and said well done Pat but you didn’t say a word about the Director who treated me like a kindergartener when she put a finger up to their lips to indicate, don’t say anything Bud.
VP Pelletier said he would take some responsibility for calling last week’s Special Meeting. He said in December’s meeting he called for a Special Meeting in early January if the Board was going to do the survey. This was to give enough time to receive the survey results that CRA said takes three weeks. He said this survey was approved in April and priced to the Board at $15,000. VP Pelletier continue saying as we began to figure out things here in the fall, we learned that price was not an accurate amount because there were a lot of add-ons, therefore it was not a good proposal.
He then began to rambled about three weeks it takes CRA to put together this survey was the reason why he called the meeting, all in order to provide figures to the owners. He said we had no intentions from day one of taking the responsibility of this vote away from you. It will be available at the Annual Meeting however we do not have a survey.
He said he actually never considered we needed three survey bids because he thought the survey was already voted on. VP Pelletier said he was open one way or another on dredging. The Special meeting was called to get you the pricing and not to take the responsibility of the vote away from you. OK
Lot 288 speaking to the Board said if you will recall from the April meeting that the motion said up to $15,000 for the pre survey, $10,000 follow up survey, without assigning it to anyone, and Bill Gagan and Mary Steffensen was to be part of a committee with Tom Bergsma. She said the survey was to take place after the hurricane season, so we had from April until now and we are just now getting some bids, I don’t understand unless the process failed somewhere.
VP Pelletier read the minutes and his motion states that LIV to proceed with the survey to better inform owners of the need to dredge. He said the motion was made for the $15,000 and to start in September. He said there was nothing about the $25,000. Owner from 288 said there was a dredging committee discussed at that meeting. Director Gagan said all he knew about a committee was from a month ago when VP Pelletier asked me to check for more survey bids.
Lot 744 wanted to assure all those who may wish to run for the Board, now is the time because this Board has been very cooperative to owners and is not as bad as past ones.
Workshop
Dir. White said the expertise forms will be available next Wednesday for future candidates and committee people to fill out. She expressed some future social events and their costs.
Pres. Halbach asked the Board f it wants to approve a Winter Texan cable channel at no cost. They said yes and it will be on channel 19. He then wanted to know if the Board wants to hold a Port Isabel shrimp boil event for about 300 people. Since most who will attend will be LIV people and a flexible date, the board said yes. He talked about a petition being put in the owner’s packet to sign for addressing Congress on our intercoastal needs.
The GM said he is looking at two new proposals for trash pickup. He is not happy with the current Red Ryder service.
VP Pelletier said the Building Committee began to revise the Building Rules Book in December and started to explain the changes until the Directors told him they needed the whole revised copy in hand instead of just its changes. VP Pelletier continued saying there are major changes in this like all masonry homes and larger mandatory parking spaces. The Directors told him to bring this up when he’s better prepared.
VP Pelletier brought up the lot 217 light posts issue and passed out photos to Directors. He said the posts are 12 inches from the road; foundation with rebar, concrete block, and a poured cap that’s permanent. He said the Building Committee said this could be a hazard and gave examples. Dir. Guerra said last week he was told these could be pushed over and were not two feet deep with rebar. VP Pelletier revised his earlier insinuation with saying now that he did not know for sure the depth but they are permanent structures. Dir. Guerra stated if that’s the case they should not be allowed. Dir. White said then we need to go around the Park and say that to all having things similar. VP Pelletier stayed adamant with saying that Park Models will incur major problems when moved because of this. There was disagreement among the ranks.
VP Pelletier changed the subject and said the roads are in good shape but the parking lot needs a total redo. He found a new expensive material that he used 25 years ago (go figure) for the roads. He said Sun Dial needs to be totally overlaid from end to end due to the previous contractor’s patchwork; patchwork he said was never paid for. He also said that street is an embarrassment but the good news is that all other remaining patch work will only cost the Park $9320.
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yes I did. would I chose others words now to vent my anger? yes I would. Bud
My guess is you consistently act like a kindergartner.....You are crude and rude. It is probably a normal response to treat you like a Kindergartner. Sorry Bud, Board business is Board business. You are not a board member..you were there as an observer. BUD OUT!
who is olive oil?
Even though the ill-advised rush to sign a contract with CRA has been stopped, I still don't sense that we are really pursuing a plan that could please the maximum number of owners at the minimum possible cost.
A couple of low cost options for the depth survey have been mentioned: the "stick method" or the purchase of our own sonar unit. I didn't hear anyone on the dredging commitee talking about actively evaluating those options.
Also, the last time dredging was done the centers of the channels were dredged (where needed) and some lot owners paid a little extra to have dredging done to their dock if they felt it necessary. Couldn't this same approach work again?
The boat owners seemed to be happy with the results last time with minimal cost to the membership.
I think Bergsma brought this board and the entire village to a stand still for months when he decided that the survey and dredging was the priority. They made a sloppy attempt at having our streets repaired (which failed.) Now our streets are not any better then last year, maybe worse, the roof of the events center needs replaced, and the parking lot is a major mess. They raised our condo fees plenty last year...what do they have to show for it? This board has accomplished absolutely nothing. The dredging may affect a few, but these other issues affect all of us! I hope we get a board that can prioritized, stand up to bullies, and get something done!
I think we should forget about BERGSMA and get on with the new elections. Why must you all continue on going backwards??? Stop HOPING and get out there and do something.
THE PAST AND HOPING NOOOOOOOOO
The FUTURE and SUCCEEDING YESSSSSSSS
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I politely disagree.
Forgetting the past only results with repeating its failures in the future.
Hope is actualy defined as the source of success in the future.
No my friend, remembering the past is not going backwards but the foundation on which the future is set upon.
Learn from the past and hope eternally.
I said why do we always have to talk about the past. We can remember our mistakes and learn.The people who are going to run for the board this year have to be asked hard questions.We dont want to HOPE they give the right answers. We want the right answers.And hold them to it!
Bergsma will be gone. Pat is gone Larry is gone. Who in the hell wnats to remember them. I wnat to throw up when I think about them!
Thank you for being polite.
I just hate these elections its the same thing over and over again the same tactics the same people.
The problem is that often we/some fail to remember the mistakes of the past and go blindly forward making the same mistakes again and again. We MUST talk about the past to remind folks that there is hope for the future only if we don't make the same mistakes again and again.
No doubt about it, elections are difficult. I look at the bozos we now have and wonder if it is possible to get better people who really will put LIV first and not their own selfish agendas. Or people who will consider the decisions they are making and how it will affect people's lives...it is not just a game.
The people on the present board , welI don't think their bozo's. They are people who really believe they can contribute to our home, and do.
Something happens to them when they get elected. When they all get together and discuss issues. THE POWER STRUGGLE BEGINS! The board members that are there for three years especially. They think they run everything. They get lazy and lack interest. I really think their sick of us. The members. We are never happy. Its like we have 500 board members. But yet we need to have input to stop people like Bergsma. Because the board is unaware of what's going on!
It shouldn't be that there are three year runs. We should have new members every year. One year terms .Or evaluations once a year, with the option to retire a board member. You should have to wait 2 years before you can run again.
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